Hello is this the same AIG we just gave a fat free loan too?
Frist I think you gave to much infomation.
The modifction is at a cost of a used kit at $2000
Next I would look for another insurance company. just give them the basic paper work
and drive…
Hello this a FuelMaker C3 a older one with all the updating works fine.
After reading Jims wedsite http://younkincng.com/
I think we just need to buld them and deal with the EPA after would.
Bob M
Hello out there MR Boone You got me going on this CNG stuff I build the first CNG VW Beetle to show how easy this is to convert cars that are on the road today. But if we do not but our money up to STOP the EPA from not allowing these safe and easy…
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I have many years in the automotive industry as a technician and inventor.
As a master VW technician I have spent the last few years learning and converting VW to run on CNG in the Boston MA area. Working with suppliers from South America and the UK on low cost kits.
What excites you about this campaign?
We can do this CNG will work for us I just need a little help www.CNGvw.com
What do you want to do to help?
I have the most hands on with the VW line of cars which is the hardest car to convert to CNG the rest are easy at this point. I have a 1999 VW Beetle 2L converted to CNG that I drive every day. I am getting close to 30MPG in the city on CNG. I would like to show this set up to any one that may help us push this plan forward.
Hello out there I have post before of my 1999 Beetle that runs on Compressed Natural Gas and Gasoline I have spent a few years on just doing VW to run on the New NGAS.
I have a site with a lot of information www.CNGvw.com . But this 2002 Jetta 1.8 turbo
As far as I can tell it is the only one in the USA.
I must say it run Great and the MPG is in the high 30’s I had a very hard time with getting the setup to work right .The kit is from Italy the install was very straight forward.
The support was none. And placing the injectors were they said never worked right.
I spent weeks on that set up never got it right.
I had to ask my older brother to help me at this point hated that. My brother and I have been in the racing world for 35 years plus and yes we are couple of old guys.
We designed a fogger system for the car with adjustable injector ports and in a day we had it running sweet.
At 130 octant and filling at home at 60 cents a Gal I think this the way for us to go.
The TURBO Jetta with the CNG BI-FUEL kit and my invention CNG Fogger is such
a joy to drive. So I drive two CNG cars but by far the Turbo takes your breath away.
I have gotten 179 miles to the CNG tank with 5.1 GAL in it that is driving it hard in
City and hi way mix.
But some thing that I have not do in a long time is bring it up to a very hi speed. There is a place on the way to Cape Cod RT 25 just before the bridge six miles of open road.
I laid into it the Turbo kicked in the CNG flowed and next thing I owned the 122 MPH
marker with a half a throttle petal to go.
So the next time some says CNG cars are slow send them this way.
Bob Mann
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Can you retrofit a Prius or any other hybrid to run on CNG? I can't see why you can't. The only retrofit necessary would be to the internal combustion engine. Obviously less CNG would be used.
: ) I see - so basically in my case it would not work for my home because of my current heat source, but we could have an additional tank fillable just for the vehicles down at the garage. Thanks!
Thank you for the info - maybe this would be a project to get some neighbor or family participation in... then we could all benefit. Who comes and fills these stations? Any fueling supplier?
I don't know how big a 5 gallon equivalent CNG tank is, but 5 gallons is 66% more than 3 gallons. So I assume the tank is 66% bigger. My biggest objective for CNG conversions is that the CNG tank takes up too much of the available trunk space. The dedicated Honda Civic has virtually NO trunk space. The bigger the CNG tank makes me more uneasy about carrying around a 3,000 high pressure flammable canister. I used the national average, because it is the national average for 250 million cars. My whole strategy is to capture the 42 miles driven on a daily average on CNG.....that's it. Personally, I don't drive 100 miles enough to compromise any more of the trunk space for that1 day per week that I drive further. We don't have to run all of our miles on CNG to be energy independent. Even if each car only ran 20 miles per day on CNG, that would eliminate 50% of our imported oil. That would reduce our daily oil consumption from 20 million to 10 million. This would cut out all 5 million barrels we import from the Middle East; and we would only need 5 million barrels (total) from Mexico and Canada combined. Am I starting to make sense?
Regardless, the size of the tank can be somebody's personal choice. The main pont here is that even partial substitution of CNG for gasoline will eliminate our oil purchased from OPEC. And, even 20 miles per day on CNG would solve our gasoline refining capacity issue. This would relax the grip that our domestic refining cartel has on our economy.
Great, Great, Great job.
There are talkers and then, there are doers.
Congratulations for putting your skills toward this effort.
I researched buying a dedicated CNG vehicle and could not make the limited mileage work for me. After much research and energy conservation debate, I am reaching out to CNG enthusiasts to promote a strategy that is gaining momentum when people do the math. It goes like this. The average person drives 42 miles per day - commuting to work and running errands. Bi-fuel Gasoline/CNG modified engine will refueled every night (at home) with 3 gallons equivalent of CNG to fuel the car for First 50 miles each day. This would only require an auxiliary CNG tank approximately the size of a scuba tank, and would not comprimise the entire trunk space. Thereafter, the car will have its normal range on gasoline for extended trips across the country. This strategy also solves the primary road block for needing costly refueling station network to convert the country to CNG. For me, on average, I usually drive about 40 miles per day. All of these miles would be on CNG. On 3 weekends per month, i will dirve approximatley 200 miles. So for the month, 27 days x 40 miles = 1080 miles on CNG and 450 total miles on gasoline. This little CNG tank would cut my gasoline usage by 71% and I would never get stranded. As a nation, we produce approximately 25% of our oil and we import the other 75%. This strategy would almost make us energy independent. When you consider the higher gas mileage standards to implemented, we would be there. And, our gasoline inventories would be full since we would eliminate 71% of our gasoline demand.
On my Profile Page, you will see my Group...........CNG-First50
If my logic makes sense to you --- please join. I'd love to have somebody with your knowledge in there to help champion this option.
Bi-Fuel Gas/CNG cars are already being produced by Volvo in Europe. This is not new technology. I believe the oil companies are blocking it here by throwing up the argument about the refueling station infrastructure cost argument. It is only a factor when you want to fully run on CNG all day all the time. But, for most commuters and soccer moms, we are only driving 40-60 miles/day. That is why this plan is so simple-genius.
I think the best thing we can do is write our Representatives and Senators to confirm to them Americans know US sourced nat gas is our best option for achieving independence from foreign oil. And with this message we must do all we can to discourage passage of a key element of the Obama administration's plans to decimate the smaller drillers (who are the cos. that provide US nat gas) by way of removal of the tax credit for intangible exploration and drilling costs. That plus the proposed cap and trade program. We must also demonstrate to these people we are not fooled by their populist notions that "renewable" energy can be brought to scale in a relatively short time. We are truly looking at decades of government subsidy needed to bring renewable energy to scale. That's decades of additional fed gov't spending that will put us further and further in debt. Unfortunately, too many in the gov't can't see what is plain as the noses on their faces, that natural gas is the only immediate bridge to a far-off scalable renewable energy society. And, it is insulting to our intelligence to hear the new Secretary of Energy proclaim he is "agnostic" on natural gas. Besides writing Congress and the Senate, here is a link that has a "contact us" to the White House http://www.recovery.gov/ I try to e-mail this one and Reps/Senators about twice a month. Sometimes receive replies and sometimes don't. But keep writing. Even though it may seem you are sending a message in a bottle, some day Congress and the Senate will discover this message, even if after they have led our country into several avoidable energy crises sparked recessions.
Yeah, I believe that cows produce much more methane than any other animal, but I'm not sure of the numbers right now. The anaerobic digester I've seen is actually quite expensive to build (1.3 million) and takes in manure from cows around the area. I don't see why this cannot be scaled down for use in cities or private farms. This is actually what I'm really interested in; a self-sustaining energy producer that can be purchased from a company and installed on someone's land to produce CNG. I'm not sure if it would be economical though for the amount of waste in a small area. Soon I will post all the research I've done so anyone can browse it and maybe do some calculations.
cool, so where do you get the gas from? The project I worked on filtered biomethane from a local dairy farm. We calculated that the farm could produce enough gas to run all the buses in Whatcom county, WA. Plus, selling below the cost of gasoline, the dairy farmers could make a profit within 3 years. The best part is that the process removes methane from the atmosphere, which has 21X the effect as CO2. There are no harmful biproducts either, after cycling through a biofilter like the one I created.